how to tell what year my savage rifle is

Barbarous 99 age, year of industry #3797505 02/14/10 OP Member Joined: February 2010 Posts: 174 New to the forum hither. I've always liked Savage 99s, but only ever endemic one, a later model 1 (tang safety) in .250. This weekend, I was fortunate enough to become a good deal on an older 1 in .300 Savage. The serial number is 582,thirty. It has a checkered pistol grip stock, a steel butt plate and a long barrel, I haven't measured it, but approximate at least 24". It is not drilled and tapped for scope mounts. Our range wasn't open this weekend, but I take dies, brass, bullets, etc., and volition put together some ammo for it earlier next weekend and then whatever words of wisdom on loads (probably 150 grain bullet loads), I'thousand all ears. Thanks, Rich Re: Roughshod 99 age, year of manufacture [Re: richhodg66] #3797872 02/xiv/10 Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,951 like2shoot Bivouac Guide Bivouac Guide Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,951 Welcome to the campfire. It sounds like an EG from your description. Does it have a snabel for-cease? Everything you at present do is something you have called to do. Some people don't desire to believe that. But if y'all're over age twenty-one, your life is what you're making of information technology. To alter your life, you need to change your priorities. Re: Savage 99 age, twelvemonth of manufacture [Re: like2shoot] #3798047 02/fourteen/10 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 174 richhodg66 OP Member OP Fellow member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 174 Thanks for the welcome. Yes, information technology has the schnabel forend, but otherwise is a fairly evidently rifle, decent walnut stock with a little checkering on the pistol grip and forend. All information technology says for model is "Savage Model 1899" on the top front of the receiver merely ahead of the ejection port, no alphabetic character designation such as EG or anything. Re: Savage 99 historic period, year of industry [Re: richhodg66] #3798173 02/14/10 Joined: April 2003 Posts: 6,901 Ron_T Campfire Tracker Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: half-dozen,901 Welcome to the Forum, Rich... Your 99 sounds like an EG made in late 1950. Its Lever Boss Code ("LBC") should be the inspector'south number followed past the letter "B". Hither'southward what my records show... the LBCs are shown in brackets backside the rifle's serial number: B= 1950: 531909(15B), 5502xx(24B), 555436(?B), 561xxx(24B), 575495(21B), 572777(15B), 58021X(15B), 584xxx(15B) The Lever Boss Code is a more accurate (only nil is "for sure" with Model 99s) manner to determine the year of manufacture. The Code is within an oval which is located on the lower, front side of the lever boss in the rear of which is that part into which the lever fits and rotates. Y'all may demand a magnifying glass to read the LBC because it and the oval in which information technology was stamped are both often stamped VERY lightly. Y'all've got one of the best quality, most desireable Model 99s... enjoy it. My 1953 EG in .300 Savage is literally a duplicate of your rifle. My favorite hunting load is 40.8 grains of H4895 (max load is forty.9 grains) behind a 150 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip bullet sparked by a standard Winchester large rifle primer in "accurized" in one case-fired Winchester cases trimmed to minimum length with the circular loaded to maximum overall length. This load gives a very consistent 2635 fps with a velocity variation of just 3 fps (+1 fps/-2 fps) and regularly shoots 3-shot, 3/iv inch groups @ 100 yards. The H4895 is a Hodgdon "Extreme" powder meaning information technology isn't effected by temperature changes... a desireable trait in a hunting load that may be exposed to wide variations in air temperature. Forcefulness & Honor... Ron T. Information technology'due south smart to hang around erstwhile guys 'cause they know lotsa stuff... Re: Savage 99 age, year of manufacture [Re: Ron_T] #3798496 02/14/x Joined: February 2010 Posts: 174 richhodg66 OP Fellow member OP Member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 174 I tin't find any marker similar what you're describing. On the left side of the barrel, right adjacent to where ".300 Savage" is stamped is a pocket-sized oval with the letters "SP" in it, does that mean anything? On the top of the barrel it says "Barbarous Arms Corporation Chicopee Falls, Mass. UsA." On the right side, it says "Loftier Pressure Steel-Proof Tested". I have wanted a 99 for a hunter a long time and take been kick myself for not buying every one I found at reasonable prices a few years agone before they climbed in value. In fact, this is the start ane I had seen for sale for much less than $600. I got this one for $350 and while it'due south not pristine, information technology looks all original and is complete and in good social club with just honest vesture on information technology. For a hunting rifle, I would probably have preferred a .308, but .300 will practise just fine. I'thou non going to scope it as that would require drilling holes in information technology, but I might put a good peep sight on information technology one-time. Thanks for the loading info. I was going to attempt 39 or 40 grains of IMR4320 and some 150 grain Hornady SPire Points I have around. I exercise have some H4895, perchance I'll give that a endeavor instead. Re: Savage 99 age, year of manufacture [Re: richhodg66] #3798598 02/fourteen/10 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 41,888 Calhoun Bivouac Oracle Bivouac Oracle Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 41,888 For $350 y'all got a practiced bargain. The SP ways Cruel Proof, the LBC is on the lesser of the receiver past the serial number, on the forward facing slope of the lever. It should end with a B, just it's very close to 1951 so don't rule it out. And I agree, find yourself a nice peep sight and take that out hunting. You lot'll be amazed at how well the old 300 Savage works. Welcome to the forum! Re: Savage 99 historic period, year of industry [Re: Calhoun] #3798613 02/xiv/ten Joined: February 2010 Posts: 174 richhodg66 OP Fellow member OP Fellow member Joined: February 2010 Posts: 174 In that location'southward no letter adjacent to the serial number. I don't suppose it actually matters when it was made, but curious. I accept high hopes that this will be a good shooter. The bore looks good. I'll probably just shoot information technology with the open sights a while first and then make up one's mind on what kind of peep to install. I shoot much amend with a peep sight, but this has long enough sight radius and skillful open sights so I may be able to do alright with it. I'thou gonna take to pull the .250 one out of the safe and shoot it more. The trigger pull on it is much worse than this one if I remember right. It has the tang safety on information technology, so not about every bit old. It sure is pretty, though, I'll probably non ever hunt with that 1. Re: Barbarous 99 age, year of industry [Re: richhodg66] #3798628 02/14/10 Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 41,888 Calhoun Campfire Oracle Campfire Oracle Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 41,888 Been needing a proficient motion picture of where the LBC stamp is, so just took one. Sometimes it was struck very faintly and can't exist read though. This is a 17I, meaning it's a 1957 rifle. Re: Brutal 99 age, twelvemonth of manufacture [Re: Calhoun] #3798703 02/14/x Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,121 lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter Bivouac Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,121 We actually should accept a viscous on how to find the LBC with a moving picture like Rory posted.... Rick, could you lot add Rory motion-picture show to the "good info post"? Re: Cruel 99 age, year of manufacture [Re: lovemy99] #3798722 02/fourteen/x Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 41,888 Calhoun Campfire Oracle Bivouac Oracle Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 41,888 Nope.. keep the pic handy, simply don't post it in Misc Proficient Info. If we post it, folks won't come in and ask. The more folks that ask, the more data we become. Re: Savage 99 age, year of manufacture [Re: Calhoun] #3798725 02/14/x Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: eight,121 lovemy99 Campfire Outfitter Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,121 I did non say... tell them how to empathise information technology... simply tell them how to find information technology Re: Fell 99 historic period, year of manufacture [Re: Calhoun] #3798921 02/15/ten Joined: October 2009 Posts: 6,933 norm99 Campfire Tracker Bivouac Tracker Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 6,933 Nope.. go along the pic handy, but don't post it in Misc Good Info. If we post it, folks won't come in and inquire. The more folks that ask, the more data nosotros get. agreed.it is ever good to go that info,especially when special order ones show up. There is not plenty darkness in all the earth to put out the low-cal of even one small candle----Robert Alden . Re: Roughshod 99 age, year of industry [Re: norm99] #3799106 02/xv/10 Joined: February 2010 Posts: 174 richhodg66 OP Member OP Member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 174 Cheers for that picture, there is no marking there on my burglarize. The more I look at this one, the more I retrieve it may have been reblued at some betoken. Some of the stamped lettering looks similar it may have been buffed down a little, maybe that stamp got lost in the shuffle. I wanted a shooter/hunter anyhow, and so I don't intendance. I wish I could get to a range before next weekend, I'm itching to shoot it. Re: Roughshod 99 age, year of manufacture [Re: richhodg66] #3799306 02/15/x Joined: April 2003 Posts: 6,901 Ron_T Campfire Tracker Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,901 Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..... no LBC? This lack of a Lever Boss Code makes me wonder if this rifle was fabricated in tardily 1948 just before they began using the Lever Boss Codes on Model 99s in 1949? At that place's other examples of a given serial numbered Model 99 existence made a year or two before or subsequently its serial number indicates. Co-ordinate to my records, that burglarize was made very late in 1950... my records fifty-fifty show some serial numbers very close to that rifle's serial number that accept a LBC of "C" (meaning it was manufactured in 1951). Very odd... Strength & Laurels... Ron T. It'southward smart to hang around quondam guys 'cause they know lotsa stuff... Re: Savage 99 historic period, twelvemonth of manufacture [Re: Ron_T] #3799405 02/15/10 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,121 lovemy99 Bivouac Outfitter Campfire Outfitter Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 8,121 I thought the year before LBCs they stamped the lever dominate with a "*" Re: Fell 99 age, year of manufacture [Re: Calhoun] #3799529 02/xv/10 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,870 1899sav Campfire 'Bwana Bivouac 'Bwana Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 13,870 Nope.. keep the picture show handy, but don't post it in Misc Good Info. If we post it, folks won't come in and enquire. The more folks that enquire, the more data we become. Plus one on that! �Tin we move this along?" a bored voice stated. "I have places to be and people to shag." Re: Savage 99 historic period, year of manufacture [Re: Ron_T] #3799660 02/15/10 Joined: May 2006 Posts: three,945 Harry M Campfire Guide Campfire Guide Joined: May 2006 Posts: three,945 I think your correct Ron in that it'southward a late 1950. Perhaps the poster isn't looking at the face of the lever bar? Even worn downward ones however show some stamping remaining. If you lot accept the barrel stock off chances are high that the appointment code will be stamped on the frame as well and should be clear to read. Harry M. Feel hath shewn, that fifty-fifty under the all-time forms of authorities those entrusted with power have, in time, and by boring operations, perverted information technology into tyranny. Thomas Jefferson Re: Savage 99 age, yr of industry [Re: lovemy99] #3799673 02/15/10 Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,901 Ron_T Campfire Tracker Bivouac Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,901 I thought the yr before LBCs they stamped the lever boss with a "*" Savage began using the LBC in 1949... and began the year'due south designation with the letter of the alphabet "A" indicating "1949". So, if Inspector #12 inspected a rifle fabricated in 1949, the LBC would look like this inside the oval... (12A). In 1950, they used a "B" as the year's designation and and then on and then on. They skipped using the "O" and the "Q" since they looked and so much alike... and they stopped using the LBCs in 1979 catastrophe with the letter "Y". However, in 1948, there was no LBC designation to the best of my cognition. However, if they did utilise the "*", I'one thousand not enlightened of it, but y'all may be correct... I dunno. However, I'one thousand certain one of the true "experts" on the Forum may exist able to tell united states of america. Forcefulness & Honor... Ron T. Information technology's smart to hang around old guys 'crusade they know lotsa stuff... Re: Cruel 99 age, twelvemonth of industry [Re: Ron_T] #3800151 02/15/x Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 41,888 Calhoun Campfire Oracle Campfire Oracle Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 41,888 A missing ane isn't so impossible.. co-ordinate to JTC, the LBC was the last affair struck, so it might have just been missed. Ane of the infamous Mon Morning Hangover Specials. Be interesting to hear if information technology's possibly on the receiver. I'd still call it a 1950, with or without the LBC. LBC on the receiver - left side of receiver on lesser under the stock: Re: Savage 99 age, yr of industry [Re: Calhoun] #3800437 02/15/10 Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 174 richhodg66 OP Member OP Member Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 174 Gents, I am sorry, upon much closer examination (information technology is stamped very lightly) it is there: 24B, so I guess it was made in belatedly 1950 later all. Thank you very much, I learned a lot from this thread and will know better as I continue to add to the number of 99s in my inventory someday.

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